Dasm Granth - "Fake" or "Real"?

Over the past years, especially the past few months, there has been many decisions on this issue. The Dasm Granth, written by our tenth guru, Guru Gobind Singh Ji, is now being questioned about being "real" or "fake".

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Bachitar Natak or Dasam Granth ?

Started by Ajit Sangh Aug 25, 2015. 0 Replies

On this Subject there are as many comments and views as there are Sikhs on the Globe. I do not have any comments to make but I have some questions that needs to be pondered upon by the Sikhs who…Continue

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Comment by Sandeep singh on May 19, 2013 at 11:05
veer ji first change the name of group ,,,,,,,Dasm granth is our respected coz nitnam banies from Dasm ,,,we must read and discuss it to clearfy our confusion ,,,,But GURU GRANTH SAHIB is our guru,,,in Dasm guru sahib say about history and mithas ,,,
Comment by Preetjit Singh Gill on May 17, 2013 at 10:14

Firstly I would like to state where I stand. For me, it is a how do you know kind of question and hence my neurtal point of view. How do we know if Dasam Granth Sahib is true or not.


The reason why some people are against the Dasam Granth Sahib are as follows.


1) Its ambiguity. When the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee was written twice, we know where and when it was written. And even though it was written in a tent with Guru Jis, every one was still there to see that the Guru was in the tent and someone was writing it. Dasam Granth did not have that clarity. No one knows when it was written. Some say that Bhai Mani Singh Jee compiled all of what he knew was Guru Ji's works. Others say that poets wrote it. And there are others that said that Brahmins wrote it. Who wrote it, who knows? On the other hand, we know that SGGS was written by Bhai Gurdas Ji and Bhai Mani Singh Ji.


2) Its Content. From Ang 1 to Ang 1428 of SGGS, the Bani is about God. Its nothing else.  (The last 2 pages is Rag Mahalla but that is another "controversy" which did not have legs as Rag Mahalla is in the SGGS itself). For those Shabads that we do know are written by the hands of Guru Gobind Singh Ji, we know that its about God. E.g. Jaap Sahib, Savaiyye, Chaupai, Akal Ustat etc.  The rest we really do not know. What has Charitropakiyan got to do we God? I really do not know nor do I understand.


That though it the essence. We really do not know anything. So I urge people not to condemn the Dasam Granth. After all, it might have been written by Guru Gobind Singh Ji himself, for all we know. So please just respect it and be neutral. After all our Present  Guru is Sri Guru Granth Sahib to whom Gurugadi was given by Guru Gobind Sngh ji.


Bhulla Chuka Maaf.

Comment by Sant Sevi on May 7, 2011 at 15:30

ਪਖਾਣ ਪੂਜਿ ਹੌ ਨਹੀ ॥
ਨ ਭੇਖ ਭੀਜ ਹੌ ਕਹੀ ॥
ਅਨੰਤ ਨਾਮੁ ਗਾਇਹੌ ॥
ਪਰਮ ਪੁਰਖ ਪਾਇਹੌ ॥੩੫॥
ਬਚਿਤ੍ਰ ਨਾਟਕ ਅ. ੬ - ੩੫ - ਸ੍ਰੀ ਦਸਮ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ



ਜੇ ਜੇ ਭੇਖ ਸੁ ਤਨ ਮੈ ਧਾਰੈ ॥
ਤੇ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਜਨ ਕਛੁ ਕੈ ਨ ਬਿਚਾਰੈ ॥
ਸਮਝ ਲੇਹੁ ਸਭ ਜਨ ਮਨ ਮਾਹੀ ॥
ਡਿੰਭਨ ਮੈ ਪਰਮੇਸੁਰ ਨਾਹੀ ॥੫੩॥
ਬਚਿਤ੍ਰ ਨਾਟਕ ਅ. ੬ - ੫੩ - ਸ੍ਰੀ ਦਸਮ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ



ਭੇਖ ਦਿਖਾਏ ਜਗਤ ਕੋ ਲੋਗਨ ਕੋ ਬਸਿ ਕੀਨ ॥
ਅੰਤਿ ਕਾਲਿ ਕਾਤੀ ਕਟਿਯੋ ਬਾਸੁ ਨਰਕ ਮੋ ਲੀਨ ॥੫੬॥
ਬਚਿਤ੍ਰ ਨਾਟਕ ਅ. ੬ - ੫੬ - ਸ੍ਰੀ ਦਸਮ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ


ਨ ਕਾਮ ਹੈ ਨ ਕ੍ਰੋਧ ਹੈ ਨ ਲੋਭ ਹੈ ਨ ਮੋਹ ਹੈ ॥
ਨ ਦ੍ਵੈਖ ਹੈ ਨ ਭੇਖ ਹੈ ਨ ਦੁਈ ਹੈ ਨ ਦ੍ਰੋਹ ਹੈ ॥
ਨ ਕਾਲ ਹੈ ਨ ਬਾਲ ਹੈ ਸਦੀਵ ਦਿਆਲ ਰੂਪ ਹੈ ॥
ਅਗੰਜ ਹੈ ਅਭੰਜ ਹੈ ਅਭਰਮ ਹੈ ਅਭੂਤ ਹੈ ॥੧੪॥੧੭੪॥
ਅਕਾਲ ਉਸਤਤਿ - ੧੭੪ - ਸ੍ਰੀ ਦਸਮ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ



ਚਕ੍ਰ ਚਿਹਨ ਅਰੁ ਬਰਨ ਜਾਤਿ ਅਰੁ ਪਾਤਿ ਨਹਿਨ ਜਿਹ ॥
ਰੂਪ ਰੰਗ ਅਰੁ ਰੇਖ ਭੇਖ ਕੋਊ ਕਹਿ ਨ ਸਕਤਿ ਕਿਹ ॥
ਅਚਲ ਮੂਰਤਿ ਅਨਭਵ ਪ੍ਰਕਾਸ ਅਮਿਤੋਜ ਕਹਿਜੈ ॥
ਕੋਟਿ ਇੰਦ੍ਰ ਇੰਦ੍ਰਾਣਿ ਸਾਹੁ ਸਾਹਾਣਿ ਗਣਿਜੈ ॥
ਤ੍ਰਿਭਵਣ ਮਹੀਪ ਸੁਰ ਨਰ ਅਸੁਰ ਨੇਤਿ ਨੇਤਿ ਬਨ ਤ੍ਰਿਣ ਕਹਤ ॥
ਤ੍ਵ ਸਰਬ ਨਾਮ ਕਥੈ ਕਵਨ ਕਰਮ ਨਾਮ ਬਰਣਤ ਸੁਮਤਿ ॥੧॥
ਜਾਪੁ - ੧ - ਸ੍ਰੀ ਦਸਮ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ



ਮੋਨ ਭਜੇ ਨਹੀ ਮਾਨ ਤਜੇ ਨਹੀ ਭੇਖ ਸਜੇ ਨਹੀ ਮੂੰਡ ਮੁੰਡਾਏ ॥
ਕੰਠਿ ਨ ਕੰਠੀ ਕਠੋਰ ਧਰੈ ਨਹੀ ਸੀਸ ਜਟਾਨ ਕੇ ਜੂਟ ਸੁਹਾਏ ॥
ਸਾਚੁ ਕਹੋ ਸੁਨਿ ਲੈ ਚਿਤੁ ਦੈ ਬਿਨੁ ਦੀਨ ਦਿਆਲ ਕੀ ਸਾਮ ਸਿਧਾਏ ॥
ਪ੍ਰੀਤਿ ਕਰੇ ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਪਾਯਤ ਹੈ ਕਿਰਪਾਲ ਨ ਭੀਜਤ ਲਾਂਡ ਕਟਾਏ ॥੧੦੦॥
ਬਚਿਤ੍ਰ ਨਾਟਕ ਅ. ੧ - ੧੦੦ - ਸ੍ਰੀ ਦਸਮ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ


ਕਹਿਯੋ ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਸੁ ਭਾਖਿਹੌ ॥
ਕਿਸੂ ਨ ਕਾਨ ਰਾਖਿਹੌ ॥
ਕਿਸੂ ਨ ਭੇਖ ਭੀਜਹੌ ॥
ਅਲੇਖ ਬੀਜ ਬੀਜਹੌ ॥੩੪॥
ਬਚਿਤ੍ਰ ਨਾਟਕ ਅ. ੬ - ੩੪ - ਸ੍ਰੀ ਦਸਮ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ


No doubt Its Its a bir ras baani ... Ans Bir Onda DasamGranth Padke....


Bhul Chuk Maaf Karni

Waheguru ji ka khalsa

waheguru ji ki fateh

Comment by AMITPAL SINGH KHALSA on May 7, 2011 at 13:20

wahe guru ji ka khalsa wahe guru ji ki fateh 

if anyone says that sri dasam granth sahib ji is fake i don't agree because for ur kind information the ist para of our ardas which we recite daily in morning and in evening is from chandi di vaar a path from dasam granth sahib ji. this is just one example. there r many shabads which we recite r from sri dasam granth sahib ji. sri dasam granth sahib ji is what i have heard teachings of guru gobind singh ji written by various sikh followers which they heard and learnt from guru gobind singh ji, and then compiled into sri dasam granth ji. hope i am right but not sure.

bhula chuka di khima 


Comment by Dilraj Singh Khalsa on August 26, 2010 at 10:40
mere khayaal ton dasm granth di bani choothi a....bcoz if suppose eh bani guru gobind singh ji di hai taan una ne api bani guru granth sahib ji vich add kyon naa kiti...isde shayaad 3 reasons ho skde ne.....
1.oh apni bani nu guru granth sahib ji de barabar ni si samjde.
2.jaan oh bhul gye hone....
3.jaan una ne koi bani likhi hi ni....
reason 1..&..2 is not possible....
so reason 3 is appropriate...

Khalsa ji mainu is de bare suggestions deyo at...
Comment by Harjot Pal Singh on August 14, 2010 at 5:57
Thanx To all !
Actualy we need to upgrade our vision and we should recoganize the real wealth we have in roop of BANI

GUru Fateh jio.
Comment by gurpreet singh on August 14, 2010 at 4:10
As i m a dakhan sikh i do believe more than myself in SHRI DASAM GRANTH SAHEB JI if u want to know histry of SRI HAJUR SAHIB JI then visit rajkaregakhalsa.netor hajursahib , nanded..
Comment by Mandeep singh on August 13, 2010 at 20:59
could you plz cange the name of group...from fake or real? to shiri dasham granth sahib...
people may doubt when reading fake or real.
Comment by MK Khalsa on August 13, 2010 at 18:52
Lecture on Sri Dasam Granth Sahib Ji - RajKeregaKhalsaNet:
Comment by MK Khalsa on August 13, 2010 at 18:36
Sri Dasam Granth Sahib Ji - History of Sri Dasam Granth - RajKeregaKhalsaNet:

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